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Draining into a bucket...

Postby Gerra on Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:35 am

In our cupping room we have no access to plumbing so we have our Linea draining into a bucket. To us this is fine as we use it solely for in house drinks and training so keeping up on dumping it is reasonable. We have a customer that is in the process of redesigning his existing space and is running into a problem running his drain. We have talked about the "bucket idea" but he is hesitant. I understand his concern, it seems uncivilized in many ways, like going backward and into the outhouse. I was wondering if anyone has run into this and if there are any tricks to setting this up.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby Jason Haeger on Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:16 am

There's a shop here that runs their drain into a bucket.

It's a royal pain during a rush, but it gets the job done in a pinch.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby Matt Milletto on Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:34 am

We use a similar bucket system at the school for a couple drains. What we found to work best is to use a lid on each bucket with a quick release quater turn ball valve that we can shut when emptying the buckets. The drain is set into the bucket lid. I'll try to take a pic if I have time. Below is a pic of something similar.

It's important to have the correct amount of drain tube as well so that it does not back up.

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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby Robert Goble on Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:44 am

Clover use a sump pump and this allows them to run their drain almost anywhere through PVC. We may set up a similar system in our lab.

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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby phaelon56 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:17 am

Gerra wrote: We have a customer that is in the process of redesigning his existing space and is running into a problem running his drain. We have talked about the "bucket idea" but he is hesitant. I understand his concern, it seems uncivilized in many ways, like going backward and into the outhouse. I was wondering if anyone has run into this and if there are any tricks to setting this up.


I don't see a problem with going into a bucket but depending on local plumbing code he may still need to put a grease trap in-line on the drain going out of whatever sink he dumps those buckets into.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby Gerra on Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:03 am

Thanks all! Looking into the quick release ball valve option, love that.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby stormer on Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:42 am

Robert Goble wrote:Clover use a sump pump and this allows them to run their drain almost anywhere through PVC.


Every effective and reliable. But if it ever stops working, make sure to check if it's just unplugged before you take it apart to see what went wrong. It's really gross in there.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby Deferio on Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:05 pm

Matt Milletto wrote:We use a similar bucket system at the school for a couple drains. What we found to work best is to use a lid on each bucket
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I remember those from when I was out there...good word man...nobody wants that stuff on their shoes.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby jason dominy on Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:29 am

We use buckets in our Training Center, and haven't had any problems. (Except last week when I went to empty and spilled some of the radioactive sewage on my shoes.) You just have to remember to check it occassionally, more if you are busy. And try to make sure customers can't see it, it doesn't look pretty after a week or so.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby TimNoble on Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:03 pm

Just caught this thread, Gerra. For my kitchen faema I use 5 gallon water cooler jugs... You can keep a few around to swap out, they cap off, and they're pretty hard to spill on yourself, unlike a 5 gal. paint bucket.
That sludge is making my garden happy. It seems like compost soup.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby jmc on Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:28 am

Draining into a bucket would not pass inspection here in Chicago. Definitely ask them to check up on code. It will work, but they are likely running the risk of potential fines/shut-downs.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby td on Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:52 am

Years ago we operated a kiosk in a regional mall where we did not have access to plumbing. We went to an RV store and purchased a sealed tank on wheels similar to this:
http://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/produc ... fm/pid/162

It was a long way from the back door to the kiosk so ease of moving was essential, and space was at a premium. I will add however, that this was before the wide scale adoption of grease trap requirements for coffee purveyors. I can see doing this in a lab, but would be a little suspect about whether you can do this in a retail environment without a way for the dumped brown water to go through a grease trap.
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Re: Draining into a bucket...

Postby Tim Dominick on Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:58 am

We've used a bucket/Carboy with our two group for years. For our low volume it is no problem.

Our inspector has bigger fish to fry and actually wrote our set up down as "mobile" which entitles us to a waste reservoir. He thought plumbing it in would be a bigger hassle for him since we would need to have an interceptor that would then need more frequent inspections. Gotta love overworked city staff.

The rhododendrons outside our roastery front door are far more impressive than our neighbors. Bigger blooms and massive foliage. They love the slops.
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