Non Espresso Retail Stores?

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Non Espresso Retail Stores?

Postby onocoffee on Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:31 pm

Wondering if the crew here knows about coffee shops in America (or Canada) that do not follow the "traditional" model of offering espresso beverages. Looking for retail examples of shops offering coffees (both brewed and whole bean) without espresso.

Two of the examples off the top of my head are: Stumptown's Annex in Portland and 3Cups in North Carolina.

Any others?

While both are great shops, the former is bolstered by a larger wholesale roasting operation and the latter with wine sales. Looking for a model that is strictly retail coffee.

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Postby Oliver on Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:24 pm

Hmm, well we (Batdorf and Bronson)have two one in Olympia, Clover and Beans no Espresso. And one in Atlanta, Fetco Brewed Coffee and Beans no Espresso. Free Tasting at both locations. Both locations since 2000. But I guess some might say we are larger roaster?
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Postby Marshall on Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:53 pm

A client is opening one late this summer in Downtown L.A. Drip-to-order.
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Postby onocoffee on Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:43 pm

Thanks for the feedback.

Is the non-espresso coffee shop a viable alternative?

I'm asking because a potential opportunity has arisen to place a coffee bar in a local bookstore. However, the bookstore is located in the same shopping center as a Starbucks and my understanding is that their lease prevents them from offering a "branded coffee" as well as espresso drinks (though I have not seen the actual wording of the lease).

The idea of going balls to the wall, head to head with a Starbucks is quite interesting and quite exciting. So, I'm interested to learn about potential models that do not offer espresso drinks.

Right now, we're just in the very early exploratory stages of possibilities so I'm exploring options.

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Postby Ryan Willbur on Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:05 pm

Marshall wrote:A client is opening one late this summer in Downtown L.A. Drip-to-order.


I'm interested in knowing who, when, and where?

Apparently, someone near our location is opening a "high end" coffee bar where they will be serving flights of coffees and pairing them with anything and everything... or so I've heard... No clue where the coffee is coming from though, let alone who's roasting it...

All the while, I'm more and more tempted to think about a Clover (only) bar in my future... say in... Australia.
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Postby Marshall on Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:18 pm

Ryan Willbur wrote:
Marshall wrote:A client is opening one late this summer in Downtown L.A. Drip-to-order.


I'm interested in knowing who, when, and where?

Apparently, someone near our location ....


As, I said, they'll be Downtown, so nowhere near you. In the Douglas Building, 257 S. Spring. Probably the end of summer. It will be called "Lot 44 Coffee."

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Postby nick on Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:29 pm

onocoffee wrote:The idea of going balls to the wall, head to head with a Starbucks is quite interesting and quite exciting. So, I'm interested to learn about potential models that do not offer espresso drinks.

I've got a great model for you. Two words:

Shave Ice.
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Postby onocoffee on Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:54 pm

nick wrote: Two words:

Shave Ice.



There's more truth to those words than you realize, my brother.
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Postby barry on Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:27 pm

Gloria Jean's did it for years and years. Brewed & beans, no espresso, no seating.
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